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Showing posts with label suicide. Show all posts
Showing posts with label suicide. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 3, 2018

Great Nihilist Responses to the Question of Suicide



The question is "Why should I remain alive?"


Great Nihilist Responses (from Camus meme stash):


  • Because your death is meaningless too. Might as well drink a cup of coffee.


  • "Man is mortal. That may be; but let us die resisting; and if our lot is complete annihilation, let us not behave in such a way that it seems justice!"


  • "What's your hurry?"


  • There’s no reason to remain alive. But there’s also no reason not to. It makes literally zero difference. Life is futile, but deciding to end your life because of its futility assumes there is some kind of value (although negative value) attached to that futility.


  • Intuitively you should kill yourself. And that’s why you shouldn’t. Because it’s absurd not to!

  • And finally my (lamer) response:
life's meaning comes IN the rebellion against suicide in the face of futility and meaninglessness. its almost more meaningful that way, if you think about it. choosing to rebel against suicide in the face of transcendent meaning is almost boring. our story is the cool one.



Friday, April 26, 2013

Camus: The Absurd Life: Three Examples

Just a meditation via various wikipedia pages related to Camus and Absurdism that I really enjoy:

 In absurdist philosophy, the Absurd arises out of the fundamental disharmony between the individual's search for meaning and the meaninglessness of the universe. As beings looking for meaning in a meaningless world, humans have three ways of resolving the dilemma.

One of the ways is:
Acceptance of the Absurd: a solution in which one accepts the Absurd and continues to live in spite of it. Camus endorsed this solution, believing that by accepting the Absurd, one can achieve absolute freedom, and that by recognizing no religious or other moral constraints and by revolting against the Absurd while simultaneously accepting it as unstoppable, one could possibly be content from the personal meaning constructed in the process.

How should the absurd man live? Clearly, no ethical rules apply, as they are all based on higher powers or on justification. "Integrity has no need of rules." 'Everything is permitted' "is not an outburst of relief or of joy, but rather a bitter acknowledgment of a fact."Camus then goes on to present examples of the absurd life.


He begins with Don Juan, the serial seducer who lives the passionate life to the fullest. "There is no noble love but that which recognizes itself to be both short-lived and exceptional."
The next example is the actor, who depicts ephemeral lives for ephemeral fame. "He demonstrates to what degree appearing creates being." "In those three hours he travels the whole course of the dead-end path that the man in the audience takes a lifetime to cover."
Camus' third example of the absurd man is the conqueror, the warrior who forgoes all promises of eternity to affect and engage fully in human history. He chooses action over contemplation, aware of the fact that nothing can last and no victory is final.

Friday, September 2, 2011

Brief Conversation with David Foster Wallace

Or rather, with my interpretation of one of his quotes:





re: Sklaroff wall post
good job, but there's still something troubling about it
like, why does one throw one's entire self
rather than like, most of it
it's a suicide of a different type in that sense
if you give all of yourself to something
there's nothing left
hella selfless, I suppose
me
yeah
Zak
perhaps virtuous
in that sense
me
i mean i'm willing to go far as to say the self isn't really anything but a conglomeration of ones interactions with society or w/e
all existence is external
looking into the self one will not find much
that's why people get much happier helping other people (peace corps or w.e) than by helping themselves
....
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but ye in response to your response to my sklar comment
i guess what i mean is
there is no throwing 'most of ones self' into something
as long as you are not committing suicide
you are throwing your whole self into all of existence
whether thats just religion or like 5 things
doesn't change that fact
existence is all one anyways
human categories distinguish it
but once you say 'yes' to this moment,
you are saying yes to all of existence
does that make sense?
3:09 PM
Zak
i think i follow but maybe not that last "saying yes to the moment = yes to existence" bit
me
its the same thing as saying as long as you are not committing suicide
you are throwing your whole self into all of existence
Zak
and i kind of agree with the
you are what you do
you are what other people experience
me
and "existence is all one anyways"
there is only one binary
truth and nihilism
nihilism is a saying 'no' to the moment